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Best way to spend time with friends:

AOL   13 votes - 5 %
Email   10 votes - 4 %
Instant Messaging   63 votes - 26 %
IRC   41 votes - 17 %
MMORPGs   16 votes - 6 %
Bulletin Board Systems   5 votes - 2 %
CB Radio   16 votes - 6 %
MUDs   15 votes - 6 %
Usenet   1 vote - 0 %
on the popular and controversial website   57 votes - 24 %
237 Total Votes

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What happens to the old front page polls? (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by Craig McPherson on Tue Sep 4th, 2001 at 06:00:07 PM PST
The old poll had some excellent discussion as well as some hillarious whining from the Lignux kiddies. It's really a great loss if it's gone. The "Past Polls" page seems to show only Story and Diary polls, not front page polls, and all the posts that I'd made to the poll are gone from my comment history, so it looks as if putting up the new poll deleted the old one from the site.

Is there a way to bring it back from the dead, or can someone at least e-mail me a saved copy from shortly before the poll was deleted? I was going through and saving copies of several stories, but just as I was about to do the same for the poll, I discovered it had just been zapped.

I'm going to try to dig a copy out of my browser cache or see how recent Google's cache is, then mirror whatever I find on my webpage so other people who want to read the commentary from that poll can do so.

If you want to know why Lunix is so screwed up, just take a look at the people who use it. Idiocy.

Looks like it's still on the server... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by Craig McPherson on Tue Sep 4th, 2001 at 06:08:57 PM PST
Here. But it doesn't look to be linked from anywhere on the site, and all the comments posted there seem to be gone from everyone's user profiles. I mirrored it here just in case.

If you want to know why Lunix is so screwed up, just take a look at the people who use it. Idiocy.

Never fear (5.00 / 2) (#3)
by bc on Tue Sep 4th, 2001 at 06:09:28 PM PST
This should be it.

Or failing that, this might be a bit better.

Here at Adequacy, we make sure that all dialogue and constructive, revealing conversation is rightfully archived. Future generations will always be able to read of these history making times.

♥, bc.

Thank you. (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Sep 4th, 2001 at 10:35:22 PM PST
Thanks for the link, but is there a reason it doesn't show up in the poll archive and why the comments don't show up in the user profiles?

There probably is a reason (5.00 / 2) (#7)
by bc on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 03:21:43 AM PST
Buggered if I know what it is though

♥, bc.

my fault (5.00 / 2) (#11)
by elby on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 10:27:56 AM PST
well, it is.

while you're at it (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by alprazolam on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 01:11:54 PM PST
how come comments in the poll don't show up in the your comments area.

argh... (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by elby on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 03:52:49 PM PST
I was unaware of this problem, and it's a total bitch to fix. The only way I can see of fixing it turns a user comment search into a 12 second operation, as it requires a huge join.

Blah, I don't know enough SQL, there's got to be a nice way of dealing with it.


probably gets annoying to hear this (none / 0) (#17)
by alprazolam on Thu Sep 6th, 2001 at 10:56:42 AM PST
but i think they have it on k5, so you could ask there or on maybe, which i see you've tried before. anyway elby keep up the good work, we appreciate it.

Thanks (none / 0) (#18)
by elby on Thu Sep 6th, 2001 at 03:14:48 PM PST
Thanks for the positive feedback. :)

The issue though is something specific with the code changes I've made for Adequacy. I'm stretching scoop to the limit, I think. To fix this I'd either need to make a database change then change all the code that touches that part of the database or use that big long sql query (triple join).


SQL (none / 0) (#19)
by CLaW on Sun Sep 9th, 2001 at 06:05:10 PM PST
I do a bit of SQL (a bit too much), and I find when i have to do a large join for data, a view works wonders. Make several views and join on these, and SQL will compile the resulting SQL so it runs faster in the future.

i assume your users are in one table, comments in another, and your polls in yet another (i would put all comments of any kind in one table and have a pair of integers indicate where it should be, but i know how it is when you tack on features after the fact...).
make a view combining users and comments, and then another view combining the results. this lets your sql server cache with some sort of intelligence.
Stored procs do wonders too.

well.. (5.00 / 1) (#20)
by elby on Mon Sep 10th, 2001 at 03:30:05 PM PST
I'm primarily a Pearl programmer first and an SQL/database design person not at all. In fact this is the first code I've even seen that is backed to a sql database.

Scoop is designed to backend to MySQL. Do you know if the "minimalistic" approach that mysql uses supports the features you're talking about?

I suppose I should look into it.


Best way to spend time: (5.00 / 2) (#8)
by alprazolam on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 08:56:18 AM PST

Not quite sure how that relates to the poll... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by CaptainZornchugger on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 12:29:12 PM PST
But damned if I don't agree.

wtf (3.00 / 2) (#9)
by westgeof on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 09:24:00 AM PST
Where are all the real activities? I don't "hang out" online, I'd rather physically be with my friends. It's really different, y'all should try it sometime.

As a child I wanted to know everything. Now I miss my ignorance.

Indeed, where is Bible Study? (4.75 / 4) (#10)
by Adam Rightmann on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 09:52:27 AM PST
ministering to the homeless?

counseling sinners?

raising my family?

This looks to be the demographics of a bunch of young college students, too socially maladjusted to engage in fornication or even the pursuit of fornication (as I was wont to do in my younger, more sin filled days), too socially maladjusted to do much besides hang out on the internet.

A. Rightmann

This is the age of the internet (5.00 / 3) (#15)
by bc on Wed Sep 5th, 2001 at 05:13:22 PM PST
It is in fact better to make friends online. Consider:
  • You can get closer to online friends. If you are the shy, reserved type, you might find it difficult connecting with people in the so-called 'real world'. But on the internet, it is so much easier to reveal things of yourself, and find those soul mates.
  • Online friends don't let you down. Real life friends have real lifes, and that gets in the way of a friendship. Your online buddies, you can be rest assured, have no 'real lifes' per se, and so can devote much more time to you. They are always available.
  • Online friends tend to be like you. With so many millions of IRC channels, mailing lists, AIM buddylists, etc, catering to specific topics, you can meet people who love the same things you do - be it garden gnome collecting, tea, the music of the band Rush, whatever, whole communities exist around these topics.
  • Online friends are loving and giving. The loneliness of the long distance runner is nothing compared to the angst ridden lifes of the average commited IRCer or AIMer. You can get lots and lots of attention, unlike in real life, where you will probably just be ignored.
  • Online friends don't have any expectations. Pesky real life friends sometimes expect you to do things for them, like get them some shopping when they are ill, or accompany them to a dance hall. No such worries with online friends, they don't demand any sustenance.
Some naysayers may wonder what to do about the issue of 'personal nurturing' - actually touching someone, or speaking to them audibly. While it is certainly arguable that such experiences are fun, if done with the right person, you have to remember that rationally speaking we are just talking about sound waves vibrating through a gaseous, molecular medium to impact on your precious eardrum and travel the auditory canal to cochlea, which degrades with every little wave that breaches 'pon the shore. When it comes to touch - such things as a girl idly stroking your arm, or the manly hug of father after enjoyable football match or concert performance, you have to remember the salient point that touch is but pressure of someone elses sebum coated skin, scaly and rife with microscopic organelles feasting cosily on old sweat. It certainly isn't the sort of thing I want to be doing.

When it comes to love, well love is perfectly achievable online. In internet time, I can have a thousand affairs in a week, I can live the entire romantic life of a casanova in a month. And all without exchanging unhygenic bodily fluids, dealing with them responsibly and hygenically at home instead.

The real world is messier and less fun that the online world. I really don't see why I should bother with it.

♥, bc.

I know what you mean! :) (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by William Jefferson Klinton on Thu Sep 6th, 2001 at 08:01:38 AM PST
I'm all hot for "being physically" with someone
right now. Man, I gotta tell you, do I love
those "real activities"!! Ha, ha. :)))

-- Amateur politician, liberal, and sex enthusiast. There is no contradiction.


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