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Minimum clothing for Adequacy posting
Something to cover the loins 35%
No shirt, no shoes, no service 5%
Women's lingerie, regardless of gender 5%
Tie and jacket 29%
Tuxedo or formal gown 23%

Votes: 17

 Vice Principal checks for thongs and bras

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
May 01, 2002
In LA, vice-principal Rita Wilson went above and beyond the call of duty, personally checking the undies of female students at a school dance. This of course, leads me to ask "What is Adequacy's dress code?"

Currently, I am wearing shorts, but no underwear. I am shirtless. Is this acceptable?


More diaries by First Incision
What's in my name?
An Afternoon Downtown
First Incision, American Television Viewer, Condemns
A marching band has made me cry
Band of Brothers
A request for a book review
My TV crush
Biochem, and other useful sciences
The Air Force
A quote for the readers of Adequacy
Hollywood has lied to me
New Toys
Thomas Kinkade vs. RMS
My newfound non-conformity
Shot Glass vs. Rosary
Analyze this
The recession can't touch me!
Cold Turkey
She's not my queen!
Thomas Kinkade: Jigsaw Review
My brush with a playmate
Playmate update
Biblical sexiness
"The Blinding Dawn" or "Breakfast at PizzaHut
The Caffeine Fix
Muppets in a courtroom?
*END* IP Token
The US Civil War
Have a Solemn Lent
King Cotton
God and High Society
[I am saddened that] the Hypermints are gone.
You have broken my will
Glasses make people ugly.
Operation Enduring Uptime
Am I a 75-cent whore?
Square bacchanal
Snoozing through Star Wars
Thank you, allies.
My Father, the geek
Southern Belle Asian Chicks
Adequacy scooped by Fortune
A Down Home 4th of July
A question for the atheists
A dream of Communism and porno
I am dating a liberalist
I'm thinking of joining the Citizen Corps
Shotgun Weddings
I s God punishing my parents?
My Day at the Monestary
On nations and ethic groups


I wonder about the principal's tendencies (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by Adam Rightmann on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 08:21:35 AM PST
I'm not sure I would want such a woman in charge of my children's schools. First it's panty checks at the dance, then it's special tutoring after school, the next thing you know ifs an all girl's vacation at Fire Island.

A. Rightmann

Oh, but ... (none / 0) (#19)
by Big Dogs Cock on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 08:16:02 AM PST
... sorry, I have to visit the bathroom.

Um... (3.00 / 1) (#2)
by derek3000 on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 08:41:45 AM PST
I have absolutely nothing witty to say about this. Maybe something along the lines of 'skirting' the issue? Nah...God this sucks.

"Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie

lame (none / 0) (#3)
by nathan on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 12:39:18 PM PST
No photos?

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Seriously. (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by anti filidor on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 01:51:24 PM PST
You'd think they could at least muster an artist's rendition or something.

Hey RobotSlave what happened (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 05:10:32 PM PST
to the copyright war? Nathan has stolen the Filthy Critic's copyright. Kindly chastise her accordingly.

listen you (none / 0) (#9)
by nathan on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 08:55:33 PM PST
I have three words for you: fair fuckin' use.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Earth to AR, come in AR... (none / 0) (#18)
by hauntedattics on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 06:40:48 AM PST
Calling someone female whom you know to be male is the insult of choice of 7th graders, and is thus not much of an insult.

I'm sure you'll try harder next time.

here you go... (none / 0) (#8)
by gNinja on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 05:20:00 PM PST
Pics!. Unfortunately the video link seems to have been removed. :(

Jesus H. Christ on a shiny pole. (none / 0) (#10)
by Illiterate Bum on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 10:47:57 PM PST
Does anyone else find it disturbing that the poll is split 33/66 (for undie checks/against undie checks) out of 16000 votes? Sure, the "against" is in the majority, but one would think that it would be in the majority by a landslide, yeah?

Then again, I suppose that a bunch of high school boys could have participated in the poll...

"...normal, balanced people do not waste time posting to weblogs." --tkatchev

You have to wonder... (none / 0) (#5)
by hauntedattics on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 03:28:31 PM PST
about methods of policy enforcement that do the opposite of what the policy is trying to enforce.

Kinda like sex education.


Catholic Sex Education (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by First Incision on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 05:19:02 PM PST
I had excellent sex education, courtesy of the Roman Catholic Church. Am still thankful for this.

My parents spoke to me some about human sexuality, but I was mostly fuzzy on the details. For instance, I thought the "woman's birth canal" was synonymous with the rectum. How was I to know females had one extra orifice? Luckily, my CCD (Sunday School) teachers got me clear on the mechanics.

Because I was taught in an institution with actual moral authority (unlike the public schools), the teachers were able to include a healthy dose of right-and-wrong with their instruction. It was here that I was first introduced to the concept of homosexuality. It was presented as a sin, not a lifestyle. The course was complete with a speech by an unwed mother who told us how pre-marital sex damaged her life.

In later grades, we learned valuable life lessons, like how to tell love from infatuation, and how to get out of a harmful relationship.
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Urk. (none / 0) (#11)
by Illiterate Bum on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 11:01:55 PM PST
Shall I ignore your "homosexuality is a sin, not a lifestyle" statement, or shall we tango?

You don't believe that tripe, do you? Or at the very least hold any significance to it? I ask because it's one thing to believe that homosexuality is a sin. You believe that it's wrong so you don't indulge in it, and that's that. But it's another matter when one uses that belief as some sort of judgemental whipping stick. You don't fall into that latter category, do you? For example, could you befriend a homosexual comfortably and keep that friendship intact?

Really. Don't you know? Homophobia is so gay.

"...normal, balanced people do not waste time posting to weblogs." --tkatchev

homophobia (none / 0) (#12)
by nathan on Wed May 1st, 2002 at 11:51:04 PM PST
There is such a thing as homophobia. The parent post was not an example of it. Academic types tend to forget that there is an entire world outside of the universities where real discrimination does take place, and that making it impermissible to speak against homosexuality will do precisely nothing to end this real, harmful, cruel, and pervasive discrimination. Anyone who has met real homophobia in the real world knows that it is not a matter of people debating the 'sin/lifestyle' question so much as it is a question of effeminate men getting beaten up and tomboyish girls getting snubbed and character-assasinated.

As for the question 'can you have gay friends?' Well, yes, I can. I also have friends who are atheists, who have extramarital sex, and who commit the sin of presumption. I mean, if publicans and whores were good enough for the Lord, I hadn't better get salty with my friends and colleagues. I don't hide my beliefs, but I think it's quite clear that if I was ever to use them as a stalking-horse for attempting to make someone else feel awful, it would be I who was in the wrong and not they.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Whoa, buddy- calm down. (none / 0) (#13)
by Illiterate Bum on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 12:24:15 AM PST
I was asking First Incision an honest question. I really don't care what his views on homosexuality are; I was merely asking him if they were just opinions that he held, or if he was one of those types that went around swearing to kill every "faggot" he runs across. I was also asking him if he could comfortably make friends with a homosexual and keep that friendship intact- as a sort of barometer to gauge his homophobia, if he had any. It's why I started off the post asking him if I should ignore the "sin/lifestyle" statement. There was no intentional sarcasm- well, except for the last line.

Understandably, the tone did come off as a little vitriolic, but it has nothing to do with First Incision (unless he is one of the aforementioned types). Honestly, I just meant to ask him if his opinion remained in the realm of belief, or if he acts maliciously on it. Apologies for any confusion.

I guess one can easily guess which side of the fence I stand on this one.

"...normal, balanced people do not waste time posting to weblogs." --tkatchev

methinks etc etc (none / 0) (#14)
by nathan on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 12:44:08 AM PST
In other words, if you think First Incision wants to "kill faggots," you've probably never read anything he's posted. Obviously I have no idea about his friendships with people who are homosexual. But I didn't see anything in his post indicative of 'homophobia,' which is a pretty loaded word, especially coming from an academic. Frankly, IB, it's a career-ender in many academic circles, rather the way 'homosexual' might have been.

While homosexual people continue to face outrageous prejudice and discrimination, I hardly think they are in any danger from our friend and colleague First Incision. I can understand being sensitive if you've faced discrimination in the past, but let's be reasonable here. There is no discrimination at issue here.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Absolutely outrageous! (none / 0) (#15)
by Illiterate Bum on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 01:24:34 AM PST
Are you, good sir, accusing me of being- gasp- gay?! Slander, I say, slander! I demand satisfaction!

Kidding :). In all seriousness, however, I've never read anything that First Incision has written that has touched upon this subject, so I am not aware of his stance on it. However, I am fairly sure that Incision does not "want to kill faggots-" I merely used that phrase as an illustration, so to speak, of the attitude typical of most homophobics (like those types that showed up at that poor kid's funeral to tell his folks "good riddance"). I did not mean to imply that Incision was a member of the latter, and if you got that tone from the post, then I apologize. Secondly, if I came off sounding accusatory, then I apologize for that as well. That's my fault. I particularly didn't see anything in his post that came off as homophobic as well, which was why I probed deeper into the subject to ask him. Admittedly, I was baiting him a little- the lure of an argument, I suppose- but I did not mean to come off sounding like, well, a jerk. Once again, if the tone was hostile, it was not intended directly for First Incision.

I also meant no sarcasm when I asked him if he could keep a comfortable friendship with a homosexual. I was just honestly curious if he was of the mindset that believed that homosexuality was a sin, yet keep a relatively stable friendship with a homosexual. I was just "testing the waters," so to speak. I have never meant to imply that there was a discrimination issue at stake in Incision's post- once again, the tone might have led some people to believe otherwise, but mostly, it was just out of curiosity to see how Incision actually stands on the matter.

I'm sorry for any confusion or perceived hostility. If there was any, it was not meant for any specific individuals.

"...normal, balanced people do not waste time posting to weblogs." --tkatchev

Excuse me... (none / 0) (#16)
by hauntedattics on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 05:28:32 AM PST
for jumping back into this discussion so late. I.B., think about it this way - among all your friends and family, isn't there someone with whom you disagree strongly about something? That doesn't mean you don't like/love them, right? And how interesting would your life be if you were only friends with those who thought exactly the same way you do? As for families, I think there's an unwritten law that states that families must have political and religious differences, and that these differences must surface at any given holiday get-together.

It is perfectly possible to love a friend or family member who's gay, and yet not believe that being gay is a good or right thing. In fact, the challenge is to love that person more.

Yes. Exactly. (none / 0) (#17)
by Illiterate Bum on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 06:10:27 AM PST
I completely agree with you 100%. I will now try and clarify what I was trying to get from Incision from my question by answering in his place. I am assuming that he believes that homosexuality is a sin, judging from his post and from his religious beliefs.

"Could you befriend a homosexual comfortably and keep that relationship intact?"

If Incision responded "yes," then the topic would have been dropped. He believes its wrong, but he realizes it's his own belief and no one elses. He would therefore not be too judgmental and try and value the person by his/her own merits instead of their sexual orientation, and I would shut the hell up.

If Incision responded indecisively, then my response would have differed, depending on how intelligent or idiotic his rationale was.

And if Incision responded no, then unless he came up with a fairly rational explanation, I would assume that he is a bigot that is judging these people purely from their sexual orientation, and not by their own merits. Moronic arguments about judgmental natures and valuing people by their actions and individual merit would then commence.

Once again, I never meant to accuse Incision of anything. I was just curious as to how he would treat a homosexual.

Jesus. I will now try to remove the foot that seems to be lodged in my mouth. Wish me luck.

"...normal, balanced people do not waste time posting to weblogs." --tkatchev

I am a sinner. (none / 0) (#20)
by First Incision on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 08:25:24 AM PST
Yes, I am a sinner. I commit many sins, daily. I try to repent, and like most people I usually fail miserably. All people are sinners, even Christians.

Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexuals are sinners, just like me, and just like everyone else. I do not consider myself any better or any worse than a homosexual. But I will not condone homosexual behavior and I would not expect anyone to condone the sinful aspects of my own life.
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Interesting. (none / 0) (#22)
by because it isnt on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 08:38:58 AM PST
Homosexuality is a sin.

I'm confused here. Are you saying that a person being homosexual (in the same way that a person can be male or female, or tall, or bald, or have blue eyes, etc.) is a sin? Are you saying that every day a person wakes up and find they are still a homosexual, they have to go and report it as sin to their nearest confessional?

Or are you saying that there are certain acts that homosexuals perform which are sinful? If so, what are these acts? Is merely being attracted to a person of the same sex sinful? Is same-sex courtship sinful? Or is it just same-sex sexual acts which are sinful? Are any of these acts sinful when performed by heterosexuals?

Please clarify on your ambiguous statement. Inquiring minds want to know. -- because it isn't

I'll explain. (none / 0) (#23)
by tkatchev on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 08:48:00 AM PST
Any sexual act, whether actual or virtual, that is outside of the Church-sanctified bounds is considered to be adultery, and therefore, a sin.

What is important that even thinking about committing such an act is already a sin; that is, if I am thinking about having sex (kissing, holding hands, fondling, etc.) a woman outside the bonds of marriage, I am sinning.

Since homosexual couples are by definition not Church-sanctified, they are by definition sinning. Even if they are only imagining their desires, without committing these thoughts to real-life.

Peace and much love...

Cheers. (none / 0) (#24)
by because it isnt on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 08:55:24 AM PST
I note you have omitted mention of merely "being homosexual". So, I can assume that being homosexual, you will not be sinning provided you don't think of or perform any sexual acts. Yes? It is the acts which are sinful, rather than the state of a person's genetics?

And as the key to the sinful nature of sexual acts is whether your church sanctifies them or not, you can go shopping for a gay-friendly church. Am I correct? -- because it isn't

Correct on both point, but: (none / 0) (#25)
by tkatchev on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 10:06:16 AM PST
Two comments:

1. I don't understand how you can be homosexual and yet never have homosexual thoughts or commit homosexual acts. This seems like a logical fallacy to me, though maybe I am wrong.

2. There are indeed some churches that sanctify homoseuxal liasons, but on the other hand, the Bible and the official Church canon throughout the centuries have been clear on one thing: sexual acts are unsinful only if they are in the context of a nuclear family. In that sense, homosexual sex is no worse than e.g. visiting a prostitute or having an extramarital affair.

Peace and much love...

Gayness (none / 0) (#28)
by First Incision on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 02:22:48 PM PST
It is quite fun to hear so many people talk about me ;-) Anyway, I really would like to be more involved in this thread, but I don't have the time at the moment. I reallized that my early morning post did not address all the questions raised.

Ok, first, on the subject of friendship, I have a half-answer. Outside casual acquaintainces, I have only had one gay friend. I met him before he was out. I was pretty much OK with it. But one night I came home and my roommates had invited some people over to watch a movie. My gay friend was cuddling with another male on my couch. Yes, that bothered me, so I guess I am not 100% OK with it. But I didn't say anything and acted polite toward the boyfriend.

Do I think "being homosexual" is a sin? I am not sure, and as you can see in the replies, different people have different views. I am not a theologian by any stretch of the imagination, and I am just going to call a cop-out. I don't know. That isn't a very satisfying answer for you or me, but it's the only answer I have.
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The homosexual act is a sin (none / 0) (#21)
by Adam Rightmann on Thu May 2nd, 2002 at 08:33:13 AM PST
the inclination and "orientation" are not sinful unless acted upon. I think that's pretty clear.

A. Rightmann


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